Sales Management Training | How to Discuss The Elephant In The Room

sales management elephantYou’re finally reached the end of the second interview.

You asked all your sales management interview questions.

The salesperson has asked all their questions back to you. Hopefully for you, none of them were really stupid ones.

If they were stupid, then don’t read any more…because you’re not going to make an offer.

However, this interview was a good one and you really want to make an offer and get them on board.

So now its time to talk about the “elephant in the room”.

Its time to talk money.

Sales Management “Elephant” Strategies

In the first interview, when the subject of money, base salary, commission, bonus, shiny beads and trinkets…or any other form of compensation comes up, deaf ear it.

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Sales Management Training | Why Stupid Questions Are Really Smart

stupid sales management questionsStupid questions can be your best friend.

And when you are interviewing salespeople, you’ll hear a lot of them.

In this occasional sales management training series on How to Interview a Salesperson, in this session, we delve into the question and answer part of the interview.

The Q & A Part of The Sales Management Interview

Most sales managers think that once their questions are asked, the interview is over. Most sales management training completely discounts this part of the interview.

That’s really too bad because its probably the most important…

The sales interview is only “over” until, as Blake (played by Alec Baldwin – way before 40 Rock and twenty-something appearances on Saturday Night Live) said in the greatest sales management movie of all time Glengarry Glen Ross“get them to sign on the line that is dotted”…

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(Any opportunity for me to show a video clip of Glengarry Glen Ross on this blog I will! :-) )

Unlike Alex Baldwin, you don’t have to swear and insult the sales interview that asks the stupid question…all you need to do is listen for the questions that are the ones that knock them out of the running.

And these questions are the stupid ones.

Because you don’t want to hire those guys.

And “put the coffee down”! Continue reading

Sales Management Training | Don’t Forget This One Tip When Hiring a Salesperson

We almost forgot one of the most important sales management training steps in hiring…

My bad. I almost didn’t include it because it was left out of my last post.

But if you don’t include it in your sales management training interviewing arsenal, you could really leave yourself open to making some fatal hiring decisions.

And I don’t want that to happen…so here goes.

Get to the “whys”

Get them talking, but ask them to focus on the “whys” behind the decisions they made in their life. The answers to those questions will give you insights into who they really are. Everyone is the sum of all the decisions they have made in their lives. Ask them about those decisions.

In asking them “why did they do what they did?” questions, you are cutting to the core of their nature. Taking a new job is a huge event in someone’s life, these decisions/thought processes are “windows into their true character”.

Simply ask them about the decisions they made and the “whys” behind each decision.

When you got married wasn’t it one of the biggest decisions you ever made in your personal life?

And the spouse you decided to marry tells a lot about who you are as a person.

Just like a “marriage” to another company tells tons about who that person is.

Ask the interviewee a question like: “Why did you leave Paychex to go work at AT&T? What were you hoping to accomplish?”

Or when they left Paulie’s Walnuts, Inc. to go to Phil’s Cashew Company, my personal favorite question is:

“What was missing from your current situation at Paulie’s Walnuts Inc.?”

When you find out the “whys” behind this question, you get a window into their soul. Then probe into each decision. Get specific. Have them give you examples.

The more specific the examples they give, the better it is for you.

And the better your chances of making a killer sales hire.

In our next sales management training step in the interviewing process, we get to the question and answer section. This isn’t the time to snooze…its time to wake up and make sure you use this all important segment of the hiring process to get the best salesperson possible.

Sales Management Training | How to Interview a Salesperson, Part 4

Now we get to the good stuff!

Who wants to get drunk like a college frat boy on a beer funnel?

Not to get your hopes up but this sales management training lesson isn’t actually about a beer funnel…

It is all about an interview funnel and its THE essential step in asking the right interview questions when interviewing a salesperson.

In our continuing sales management training series on how to interview a salesperson, we get into interview questions for salespeople.

Today we discuss sales management training step four.

4. “The Funnel”

 
As you may know, a funnel is a large conical structure that is wide at the top and extremely narrow at the bottom. A large volume of liquid is poured into the top of the funnel, the liquid compresses and swirls around the tapered edges, while gravity pulls the substance inexorably towards the narrow hole at the bottom, finally releasing its contents in an unbroken band, streaming out the bottom opening in a tightly concentrated, viscous thread.
 

When you interview sales candidates, think of your interviewing style as a large funnel, but the liquid is the line of questioning you use to uncover the true nature of the candidate. In our funnel analogy, start them off with some large, wide, broad sweeping questions, lulling them into a comfortable rhythm, making them comfortable and at ease.

As the interview progresses, over time, you ask for more and more specifics, narrowing your focus and field of questioning to exact instances and examples until you get a steady strand of tightly worded and specific questions that will ultimately reveal a wormhole into the soul of your candidate.
 

I’m being a bit melodramatic, but the idea is really simple:
 

Start with big broad questions, then using a step-wise approach; ask more and more specific questions, drilling down to get the “answer behind the answer”.
 

It’s really just that simple to explain. It’s harder to actually do, but Ill show you how in the next sections.
 

Get drunk off of “The Funnel”
 

A favorite college pastime is doing “the funnel”, this along with “the kegstand” are two of the more intellectually challenging, yet extremely effective ways in which to consume massive amounts of alcohol in a notably short period of time. By pouring cans of beer inside a plastic funnel, the imbiber of said malted beverage can quickly consume two or three beers inside of ten to fifteen seconds, when under normal circumstances those same beers would be consumed over a longer duration of time.
 

So if you want to get really loaded, really fast…try either one and you’ll immediately know what I mean, (Ill explaining the full benefits of the kegstand in later lessons).
 

Like the college beer funnel, the interview funnel does in essence the same thing. You get a ton of incredibly important information in a very short period of time, loading you up with vital information that you can immediately use to assess the candidates viability for the job at hand. This technique is especially effective if you vigilantly keep them on track as we’ll instruct you to do, even interrupting their rambling if necessary.
 

Make sure you remember to phrase your questions from very broad to very specific. The funnel is a questioning technique you need to use at almost every stage of the interview with the exception of the first pass on The Resume Walk. The Resume Walk is where you get your late lines of questioning, by taking notes and jotting down broad statements that you can then question all the way through the funnel until you reveal a narrow stream of character traits that you can then match to the pre-requisites of the position.
 

So after the candidate has done the resume walk, you are probably now into the half hour mark in the interview. If you’ve done a good job at keeping the candidate on track, as well as shelving most of your questions by writing them in the margin now is the time to refer back to some of these notes.
 

Keep your “Fabulous Five” as well as your hiring criteria in mind; begin asking particulars on some of the initial comments. A good tip is to use their exact words stated back to them. Although they may not say it, the candidate will be impressed with your attention to detail on this. Likewise, this tells them immediately that you’re on the ball and it may be difficult to pull the wool over your eyes. This small detail heightens the intensity of the whole interchange.
 

For example, let’s say that the interviewee divulged that when describing one of their previous jobs he said he “really liked” selling that product. An example of a funnel question would be as follows:
 

“When you were at Moshi’s Oriental Rugs in 2007, you said that you ‘really liked selling oriental rugs’ that year, tell me more about that”
 

When he tells you more, you can then ask even more specific questions around his aptitude at selling rugs in that year. You may ask him:
 

“Tell me about a really huge rug sale that year that you were particularly proud of”
 

Then ask him even more specifics, using names if possible:
 

“What sales strategy did you take with Mr. Magdi to make the sale?”
 

You’ll then want to go even further:
 

“Tell me about that sale to Mr. Magdi and how exactly you did it.”
 

Maybe then layer another related question on top of that by asking:
 

“Out of all the parts of a sales call, which part is most important?”
 

Then ask:
 

“What makes you so good at selling?”
 

You could follow that up with a more introspective question such as:
 

“How does being successful selling rugs make you feel?”
 

This is an extreme example of “funnel” interviewing.
 

Do you see how one single point from the initial interview “Resume Walk” led to six or seven follow up questions?
 

This is purposeful, because the more detail you can get on a single event, tells you not only that it is not “made up” (I cannot imagine!), but it also tells you the specifics you need to assess if the candidate is a good fit for your sale.
 

This is classic “Resume Walk” funneling:
 

  • Focus on one broad statement made in the “resume walk” phase of the interview

 

  • Pick that vague comment apart until you have a very specific instance of the candidate selling in action

 

  • Ask them to comment on their own skills in an introspective manner.

 

And that’s how you funnel.

In our next sales management training step, ee reach you how to “Get to the Why’s” behind your sales interviewees b.s answers.

You gotta cut through the bull and get to the meat.

We teach you how next time.

Sales Management Training | Interviewing a Salesperson Part 3

Well its been a little while since we continued our series on How To Interview a Salesperson, but this sales management training post is worth the wait!

As outlined in our last sales management training posts, although there are many excellent methods on how to interview a salesperson, in my experience, there are 6 sales management training steps you must follow when interviewing a salesperson.

After conducting hundreds of sales interviews and hiring hundreds of salespeople, these sales management trainng methods have worked wonders for me. So I am more than happy to share them with you here so you can achieve your own high level of sales management successs.

Today we discuss sales management training step three.

3. “The Resume Walk” (First Interview Only)

The goal of the first interview is to do one and only one thing:

Determine if you want them to come back for the next interview!

That is your only goal in interview number one.

The way you do this is get them talking a lot and the best way to do this is get them to take a trip down memory lane…talking about themselves.

So using “The Funnel” interview style as your sales management training guide, it is best to get to the core of who they are by prompting them to first take you through the most basic of interview questioning, namely “The Resume Walk”.

People love talking about themselves – and salespeople are typically a pretty chatty bunch. So in the interest of both “making em comfy” and getting the vital data you need to make an excellent hiring decision, make them extremely comfortable by getting them talking up their (and everyone’s) favorite subject: themselves!

When you actually start the interview questioning, the first question you’ll need to ask the candidate should be use “The Funnel” exactly; start wide and broad and end narrow and specific.

However, you don’t want to have them blindly start telling you “about themselves” – set some ground rules for what you want them to tell you, while using “The Funnel” at the same time.

When you first ask them to talk you through their resume by taking “The Resume Walk”; your question should begin something like this:

“Take me through your resume from college to present, moving from job to job – however, what I am particularly interested in is

Why the “why you made the decisions you made in your career” part?

It’s simple. You’re getting two things here. You get to see them talking (all salespeople need to do this) – where you can measure articulation, persuasiveness and logical flow of information.  But even more importantly, you’ll witness them articulating their desires.

Since actions reveal a whole lot more about a person than just what they say, the “job change” part of the story will tell you within the context of their career, what they truly desire.

Let me explain.

You’ve heard the expression: “show me don’t tell me”? Well, truer words were never spoken when it comes to interviewing. There will be loads of bull flying around during your interview, but the no bull is when they show you and reveal to you what they actually did.

Getting them to tell you about why they made those decisions cuts to the core of their character.

Here’s why. Big decisions require lots and lots of thought and this kind of introspective thought can only come one place: deep inside.

If you really want to uncover what they are all about deep inside, and not just on a surface level, then ask them about the big, heavy decisions they made. Then further drill it down to an even more granular level by asking them why they made those decisions…this always bubbles up to the surface the reason behind their answer.

Take notes here. Their answers to these “big decision” questions will give you plenty of fodder for follow-up questions (as long as you write it in your resume margins) for the second interview…

Let’s take a step back.

If you think about the biggest decisions you’ve made in your life – what would they be? You could maybe list a few (this is not all inclusive):

1.    What college you went to

2.    Who you married

3.    What house you bought

4.    What jobs you took

These are all big, life-altering decisions, and isn’t each and every one of them just loaded with stories of exactly who you really are?

How you chose your spouse is so intertwined with what it is that you were looking for in a partner in life that it speaks volumes about who you are, what you are and maybe even where you’re deficient (don’t worry I won’t ask him or her). If somebody asked you why you married the person you are now married to, wouldn’t that answer be a “mini-narrative” on who you are as a person?

It’s the same thing when understanding salespeople’s career choices.

The biggest decisions they made in their career can also be asked with even more revealing, soul-baring questions attached like this:

1. What career path they chose:

“Why are you in sales?”

2. Why and how did they choose the company they chose to pursue that career path:

“Of all the fabulous metal detector companies to work for, what was it about Metallica Metal Detectors, Inc. that made you want to work for them?”

Layer even more questions on top; probe deep into those decisions they made for both 1 and 2 above. You’ll uncover the candidate’s true nature the more follow up questions you ask.

While the candidate is going through the resume walk, remember to take notes in the margin on anything in particular that stands out.

Remember that you’re looking for any broad generalizations, any “throw away” side comments that may be interesting; just take lots of notes. Like we said before, just jot them down on the resume – and circle them so that you can refer to them later.

Don’t forget to notate broad general statements they make like “I really knew that sales was the job for me” and “I did really well that year” or “I learned the products pretty well”. Make note of these broad statements, you’ll be using them later as you swirl them around the middle of “The Funnel”, when used to formulate follow up questions.

Then once you have completed this step, you are ready to really evaluate their answers more in depth. By getting drunk off the Funnel!

In our next sales management training article, we will discuss that further. Stay tuned.

What do you think? Is there a better way to interview a sales rep? Post your comment below and let me know what YOU thnk.